Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. I'm Meg Lafove.

Lorian couldn't be here today, but our producers Jeff and Savannah are going to be jumping in asking some questions.

And today we are talking with game designer Elizabeth Hargrave.

Now even if you're not a game designer or into board games please stick around

because this really will apply to you as well. It's a wonderful way to take a look at the creative

process from a fresh point of view and illuminate your own process and what you're doing as a writer.

Elizabeth's very first board game, Wing's your own process and what you're doing as a writer.

Elizabeth's very first board game,

Wingspan, a game where players race to attract unique birds

to their wildlife reserves, won over nine game of the year awards

when it was published, and has become one of the most popular

board games of our time. She has since published two additional nature-themed

games with her newest game Under Grove on Kickstarter right now and set to release in the fall of 24.

We brought Elizabeth in to talk about her creative life because we have a sneaking suspicion

it's going to really help illuminate the creative process for writers and directors and all creative people.

Welcome to the show Elizabeth.

Hello, thanks for having me.

So first, I'm excited to talk to you about your wonderful beautiful game, but first let's do our segment

Adventures in screenwriting. We're going to let Jeff go first this week. He had a very big week. week Jeff how is your week? Yeah this will be

interesting depending on when the show comes out but it's the last week of November and

my debut feature film just dropped on digital platforms like all around the world which is exciting so

you're listening and you're not tired of me talking about it you can officially buy my movie

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