And I finally had this moment like my wife just wants to be heard and this is a time where I need to be with her I need to listen to her and it's not a time for me to problem solve because that's what I kept doing. I kept trying to problem solve and

figure out a solution to the issue. That's what I like to do. But for Abby she just

wanted to be heard. She just wanted to know that I was there and that I was

validating of her feelings that she was feeling that and we finally had this

breakthrough and it was great.

I'm Amy and I'm Abby and as women we are constantly comparing ourselves to others but your life isn't supposed to look like hers

Being your best self means standing firm in your decisions

and always being willing to grow with a purpose.

We get vulnerable and real with an honest look into the challenges and triumphs we all face.

Every woman listening gets the opportunity to choose what life looks like for herself.

For this episode we have brought our husbands Drew and Colin back on. Thank you guys so much for gracing us with your presence and we are really excited to dive into this episode and talk about how COVID is impacting our relationships.

Great to be back. Thanks for having us. It's a pleasure. I love it. I miss your

voices. I miss your faces. I know. I know. I know. I know. Collins like I've had a

little bit too much of Abby these days, but it's always good talking to another couple right now.

And we are just coming off of two episodes with psychologists and couples therapists, Dr. Tracy

D. So we thought it'd be a good time to bring our husbands back on to really talk about all the things that we've gone through these last two episodes and how it's going for us with couples.

So we're going to get honest. We're going to tell you kind of what's actually happening in our lives, but also brings some really helpful tips.

So to kick us off, Kiefers, I know that you guys have had your three little guys at home with you for about, what has it been three, four weeks now?

And you're also navigating two full-time jobs.

So how is Camp Kiefer holding up?

It's been rough.

I'll start by saying that for myself. I think Amy's done a better job of navigating

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