This episode of Reasons to Be Chirphal is brought to you by the newsmeeting from Podimo and Tortoise.

This is a new podcast that I'm really excited about. It is a brilliant idea.

In each episode, you hear three journalists pitching their idea of what the most important story of the week is.

And this is basically what happens every day in every newsroom in the world.

And you get to be a fly on the wall. It is heated, it's competitive, it's informed, it's passionate, it's funny sometimes.

You're going to love it. So they're pitching to James Harding, who hosts the podcast and makes the decisions on what leads, what follows, and in what order.

And he is the real deal. He's the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Tortoise Media.

He used to be director of BBC News and the editor of The Times before that.

So he lives and breeds this stuff. And it is just fascinating to get to look under the bonnet of a newsroom at this kind of level.

In case you didn't catch the name at the beginning, it's called the news meeting.

And you can listen wherever you get your podcasts and follow the feed for new episodes every Friday.

This is Raisins to Be cheerful with Edmilly Band and Jeff Lloyd.

Hello! Hello! Do you want to hear the good news?

Yes.

Our podcast was in Spotify's Top Picks in the Health and Lifestyle section.

Ooh! That was my cycling, my running, the food, all of those things.

This is what I think. Just by virtue of the fact that you've been talking so openly and compellingly about your cold water swimming.

We're in the self-help section now, obviously.

Honestly, it's a big deal. How have you been?

I've been fine.

I sent you a link the other day to a book called Ageless.

I read it.

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