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God Hears Her Podcast

179. Beauty in Adopting (with Cathy and Caili Sall)

God Hears Her Podcast

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Society & Culture, Bible, Womensministry, Womensbiblestudy, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Women, Female

4.9689 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Guest Bio: Cathy Sall works at Our Daily Bread Ministries as a Project Manager. Outside of work, she enjoys spending time with her daughter Caili, either here in Michigan or out in Utah, mentoring a child through KIDS HOPE USA, attending Bible Study Fellowship, or reading. Cathy and Caili are planning a trip back to China in the near future, and her lifelong dream is to get to the Holy Land someday. 

 

Guest Bio: Caili Sall is studying social work at Southern Utah University. Caili has an adventurous spirit. She took a gap year between high school and college and spent 3 months in South Africa and 3 months in the Holy Land. She will be venturing out to Mannheim, Germany to study during her spring semester in 2025. She also loves running, snowboarding, and hiking with her friends. 

 

Show Summary: When we reflect on our stories, we are often left with memories that carry both joy and grief. Perhaps you got a job promotion while mourning the loss of a loved one, or you got bad news while celebrating a big event. We often have seasons of celebration that mix with times of mourning. Cathy and Caili Sall are a mother-daughter duo who have learned how to hold all of the feelings that come with adoption. Cathy was a single woman when she felt God call her to adopt Caili, an orphan in China. Together, they’ve learned how to navigate the ups and downs of their story while acknowledging the grief and pain that come with it. Join hosts Eryn Eddy Adkins and Vivian Mabuni as they hear the testimony of Cathy and Caili during this God Hears Her conversation.

 

Notes and Quotes: 

  • “In whatever happens along this journey, I need to trust that [God] is still walking beside me, and leading me and guiding me.” —Cathy Sall 

  • “If you’re praying right now [about adoption] or God lays it on your heart, He will walk you through it. He will guide you through it, and He will walk each step with you.” —Cathy Sall 

  • “God gives us grace; He extends it to us so we can show ourselves grace [in our stories].” —Caili Sall 

  • “There’s a lot of sorrow and grief in my adoption story. But I don’t necessarily realize those bad things. To me, when I gain those strengths and things as a part of my story, I feel like I’m closer to the heart of Jesus.” —Caili Sall 

 

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0:00.0

The beginning was hard because she was scared. She didn't know where she was. She didn't, you know.

0:07.5

And the one thing that I wanted to do before I left for China is to know how to say I love you in Chinese.

0:17.4

And there was one point in time she was just, we were home and she was just screaming.

0:21.6

And I was just holding her so tight and saying, I love you, I love you, I love you in Chinese.

0:27.9

And then she would have nightmares.

0:31.2

And I would just sing Jesus loves me to her.

0:34.0

And it would just calm her right down.

0:43.5

Music to her, and it would just calm her right down. You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for women where we explore the stunning truth

0:49.3

that God hears you.

0:51.2

Join our community of encouraging one another and learning to lean on God through

0:55.5

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1:05.8

So today is an exciting interview because we have a mother-daughter duo, Vivian, in this conversation,

1:11.9

it's going to be a little different. I think what I kind of hope for is I want to get to know

1:16.2

Kathy Saul, who is no stranger to our daily bread ministries. And she has brought her daughter,

1:22.2

Kaylee, and to talk with us. But before we get into learning more about Kaylee, I want to dig into

1:27.0

Kathy's story and then how Kaylee came into learning more about Kaylee, I want to dig into knowing Kathy's story

1:28.4

and then how Kaylee came into Kathy's life. So Kathy, welcome to the God Here's Her podcast.

1:34.3

Thank you. It's good to be here. So will you share maybe with us, what do you do right now

1:39.3

with our Daily Bread Ministries? I am a project manager, which I love doing. God hears her has been the podcast and

1:47.8

the blog has been my project for a long time. Since it started almost. Yeah. Yeah. And I've loved every

1:54.4

minute of it. I also do project management for the Our Daily Bread Publishing team. Oh, cool. And I am starting to get some, like, our quarterly

2:03.1

newsletters, some fun other projects. How long have you been with Our Daily Bread? This is my 13th year.

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