Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Warmest Stories podcast. I'm your host John D'Alene. It is June 5th,

2023 and we are here in part two of our interview with Riley and Josie Porter. Hi guys. Hello.

We just finished lunch. Riley and Josie Porter reached out to me after David Mielsen's 60 minutes interview

because the topic de jour of the past month or two has been and signed peak.

The Mormon Church is 150 plus billion dollar aggregation of assets

under the N. Sin Peak and the Secureting Exchange Commission's recent ruling,

declaring that the Mormon Church has been intentionally

deceitful in its filings of documents related to its holdings

with the Church now acknowledging that it was afraid that if the members knew how rich the

Mormon Church was, then they might stop paying tithing, which is all problematic. Anyway,

David Mielsen goes on 60 minutes, tells his story as the unsigned peak whistleblower and then

Riley and Josie Porter reach out to me and say, hey, we grew up connected to kind of Wall Street,

White collar, Mormon stockbroker elites in New Jersey and by the way, our dad, Jeff Porter,

works for Ensign Peak and has for a long time and we would love to share our perspective. So

we spent part one speaking mostly to Riley about her experience as sort of the black sheep

and I use that term in air quotes, sort of feeling like she was the black sheep in her Mormon family

that spent a lot of time in New Jersey and traveling around the US but moving to Utah

in kind of during her high school years in North Ogden and we ended part one with Riley talking

about her eventual departure from the Mormon Church and just how that affected her relationship

with the parents and just her own life and I felt like it was really beautiful ending where we kind

rehabilitated this narrative that she was a black sheep and instead in many ways she was a pioneer

and in many ways she was heroic standing up for courage. Josie grew up feeling like she was kind of

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