Behind the knife, the Surgery Podcast, where we take a behind the scenes intimate look at surgery

from leaders in the Knife. I'm your host Shre Agupda and my co-host Magna Keshup and in discussion today we have our guest Dr. James Lough. Dr. James Lough is a professor of surgery at

Stanford University. He's the assistant dean for clerkship education at

Stanford School of Medicine, director of the Stanford Surgery, ACS Education Institute and Goodman Surgical

Education Center, as well as the Director of Surgical Education Fellowship and the Director of

the Court's Clerksship in Surgery. He completed his

undergrad degree in bioengineering at University of California, San Diego, followed by

medical training at Loyola University,

his general surgery residency at Indiana University,

and finally a fellowship in minimally invasive

and bariatric surgery at Stanford.

He also completed a master's degree in health professions

education from University of Illinois Chicago. Dr. Lough, thank you so much for

joining us. We are very honored to have you on behind the knife.

So- I'm honored to be having thank you for asking me.

We would like to start off our discussion by kind of getting to know a little more about your

background and what led you to surgery and your focus on surgical education?

Well I've always considered myself a teacher, and so with my interest in surgery and taking care of patients, it just kind of went hand in hand.

And kind of what I tell my students and my residence is the best way to be a

teacher is to remember what it was like to be a student and what it's like to be a resident and so I mean

honestly I kind of consider myself a resident so it kind of flows naturally.

So I have just always enjoyed teaching and working with medical students in residence and it kind of led itself to kind of mind being an advocate for medical students and resident not only teaching but kind of

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