On this episode of Most notorious, the 1937 murder of Alice Parsons.

And no, it's her mantra.

It's one line that struck me so many times as she said it, so many times in the investigation,

and this is it.

If there is nobody, there is no murder.

And so she could care less about without catching her in any lie,

but it didn't matter because if there is nobody, there is no murder.

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So my guest today is Steven C. Drelac.

He has over 30 years of law enforcement experience,

and he is an internationally recognized expert in the area of hot zone forensic attribution.

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