#176: Dr. Leah Lagos and Joe Mazzulla: Control Your Heart, Conquer Your Stress

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

Farnam Street

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.7 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Internationally renowned health and performance psychologist Dr. Leah Lagos discusses the concept of Heart Rate Variability (HRV) and how you can improve your mental and physical health by using signals from your body to gain control over stress. She’s also joined on this episode by Head Coach of Boston Celtics, Joe Mazzulla, who has worked with Dr. Lagos on HRV training. He discusses how he uses techniques taught by Dr. Lagos to help him manage his HRV and lower stress levels during his first season as an NBA head coach in 2022.

Dr. Lagos has served as a Clinical and Performance Psychologist in private practice for the past 14 years. She consults a global hedge fund as well as elite performers in entertainment, business, and sport. Dr. Lagos is the author of Heart Breath Mind: Conquer Stress, Build Resilience, and Perform at Your Peak.

Mazzulla took over as the interim head coach of the Boston Celtics in September 2022 and was officially named the team’s head coach in February 2023. In his first full season on the job, he led the Celtics to the Eastern Conference semifinals and was named one of three finalists for the NBA Coach of the Year.

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0:00.0	And the one thing I say is, look, stress is going to happen.
0:03.9	Let's expect it. Let's accept it. Even with training, you're going to have a stress response.
0:09.5	But I want you to be in control of how long it lasts and be able to return to baseline as quickly as possible or as quickly as you need to be.
0:30.0	Welcome to the Knowledge Project, a podcast about mastering the best of what other people have already figured out.
0:40.9	So you can apply their insights to your life. I'm your host, Shane Parish.
0:46.5	If you're listening to this, you're missing out.
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1:00.8	you can join at fs.blog slash membership.
1:04.4	Check out the show notes for a link.
1:07.7	My guest today is Dr. Leah Legos and Boston Celtics coach Joe Mazula.
1:15.2	Leah Legos is a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in health and performance psychology and is known for her pioneering work in heart rate variability,
1:25.8	biofeedback. Dr. Legos treats a broad range of disorders and performance challenges.
1:31.6	Her expertise includes strategies to reduce anxiety, boost resilience to adversity, and enhance health.
1:38.8	Joe is the youngest coach in the NBA and he's an advocate of Dr. Legos' approach and an example of how performance psychology plays out in the real world.
1:47.6	I've been talking to a lot of top coaches about performance and how we can do better.
1:53.0	And one of the keys to clear thinking is managing your emotions and this episode will help you.
1:59.3	You'll change your narrative of a bit, struts, plan for it, and master it.
2:04.0	It's time to listen and learn.
2:14.0	The knowledge project is sponsored by Metal Lab.
2:16.7	For a decade, Metal Lab has helped some of the world's top companies and entrepreneurs build products
2:21.4	that millions of people use every day.
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