We're at McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

Do you own a business or maybe you don't even own a business, maybe you're a manager or

an executive at a business at work and you feel like every day at work you're just putting

out fires.

Every day it's just crises you're putting out or even in your personal life it could

be the same thing.

You go home and it's just like crises after crises after crises and you're just always

putting these fires out and you get better.

You try to manage these fires by getting more efficient with your fire putting out in,

right, by using to-do list and productivity tools.

But what if the answer is to get more efficient with putting out fires would be to look at your

business and your life as a series of systems and working on making those systems more

efficient.

Well, that's what my guest today argues.

His name is Sam Carpenter.

He's the author of the book, Work the System and he's also a business owner of himself.

And in Work the System he talks about systemizing your business.

So things run on its own and they don't have to worry about putting out fires and instead

you can work on tweaking your system so things run more smoothly.

And what's interesting is you don't even have to be a business owner to get something out

of this book.

You apply the big picture principles to your own life and find ways to systemize your

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