172. Daring Joy: Breaking Free from Fear, Cynicism, and Toxic Positivity with Therapist Nicole Zasowski
The Best of You
Dr. Alison Cook
4.9 • 959 Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:33.1 | Hey everyone. I'm Dr. Allison, and I'm so glad you're here to discover what brings out the best of you. |
| 0:42.0 | This podcast is all about breaking free from painful patterns, mending the past and discovering our true selves in God. |
| 0:50.0 | I can't wait to get started as we learn together how to become the best version of who we are with God's help. |
| 0:59.1 | Hey, everyone, and welcome back to this week's episode of The Best of You. I'm so glad you're here with me today for this incredible conversation. |
| 1:08.8 | Today's episode is for you if you've ever found yourself holding joy at arm's length. |
| 1:14.1 | Maybe you're fearful of trusting that the good in front of you is real, that it's safe to exhale, |
| 1:20.1 | or that it might actually last. Maybe you've been through loss, disappointment, or long seasons of waiting. |
| 1:28.5 | And even when something good finally happens instead of celebrating, you catch yourself bracing for what might go wrong. |
| 1:36.9 | Or maybe you've quietly stopped hoping altogether, telling yourself it's easier not to expect anything good at all to happen than to risk |
| 1:46.2 | being let down one more time. Our guest today knows this feeling well. Nicole Zosowski is a licensed |
| 1:53.4 | marriage and family therapist. She's a speaker and she's the author of a fantastic book. It's called |
| 1:57.9 | What If It's Wonderful? Release your fears, choose joy, and find the courage to celebrate. And she's just released a brand new Bible study. It's called Daring Joy, what six women in the Bible teach us about the power of celebration when it feels risky, complicated, and even impossible. What I love about Nicole's work is that she invites us to see |
| 2:19.8 | joy not as a fleeting feeling, but as a courageous, countercultural practice, one that we can |
| 2:27.0 | and really must learn how to cultivate no matter our circumstances. Nicole's own journey to joy |
| 2:33.3 | began in a season marked by change, |
| 2:36.1 | loss, and a performance-based identity. She shares candidly about walking through infertility |
| 2:41.8 | and multiple miscarriages and the surprising realization that joy was the most vulnerable |
| 2:47.3 | emotion she could feel. Because when you hold something dear, there's always the risk |
| 2:53.5 | of losing it. Instead of avoiding that vulnerability, Nicole began to explore what it looks like |
| 2:59.4 | to practice joy as a rhythm of life rather than a reaction to circumstances. In today's conversation, |
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