Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I am one of your two hosts for today, John Delin

It's December 13th if my blurry eyes are not deceiving me and I am here joined today by my lovely partner in

Truth and righteousness Margie him Margie

We're trying out a new format, which is where we live stream sitting at the same desk

But bringing on a guest who couldn't join us in studio. How are you doing today Margie?

I'm doing well. How are you feeling? Good to have you. Thank you. Happy to be here. All right. Well, we are super excited

for today's interview. We this woman is not a stranger to people who have been with us for a while on the Mormon Stories podcast channel

and for anyone who has been around Mormonism and progressive Mormonism long enough to have been paying attention. We have with us the woman

the myth the legend

Dr. Carolyn Pearson. Hey, Carolyn Pearson

So happy to be here. I didn't know I had just received from you my doctorate. Okay. Now I'll accept that you received an official Mormon Stories doctorate. Is that okay?

Oh, I'll accept it. Thank you. We should have a season easy

What are the weird things about the internet these days Carolyn is that you know, we have an audience of hundreds of thousands of people and

even though to us you are literally a living legend pioneer

The overwhelming majority of our audience will have never heard of your name. Part of that is because half of our audience is never been LDS

and then you know a huge chunk of our audience haven't been listening to Mormon Stories since the beginning. So they will not have heard our epic interview with you

which to me is definitely a top 20 classic our interview with Carolyn Pearson on Mormon Stories is definitely an important one. But the world needs more Carolyn Pearson. So we are bringing you back on Mormon Stories to do a few things.

One is we want to do kind of catching up on you and your life, reintroducing you to our audience as it evolves. We're of course wanting to support your sharing of this amazing book

and a few others with the world. One book that we are sharing with and talking about today is a new book that you've come out with called the Love Map

saving your love relationship and incidentally saving the world. It's available on Carolyn Pearson.com and also on Amazon. But if you buy it from Carolyn Pearson.com

like ours, it will be a signed copy. But it's a book about love Carolyn Pearson has at least two other books. She's the author of I don't know several dozen books. A lot of them poetry books but some of the most famous books or most

noteworthy books that we're going to be emphasizing today are finding mother God, which is a book you wrote a few years ago about mother in heaven. You also wrote several years ago, a book that we have featured on Mormon Stories

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