Is it true?

You were one of the first, or were you the first active duty fighter pilot to come out and talk publicly about UAPs?

Yeah, specifically active duty.

I was actually active duty when I did first speak about this.

David Fravor, command of David Fravor, he was kind of the first one that I think come out and speak about this.

But at the time, he was no longer in the military.

Why is it that you were the first one to come out and talk about this?

Because people have been witnessing this and observing these things for long before you came out, right?

Yeah, that's my understanding of it.

So, I mean, why was I?

You know, the first, that's a great question, I think.

Perhaps I wasn't, just maybe I'm the one we're hearing about.

But, you know, from my position where I was, it was a little different because we weren't

just seeing a one-off

object on the radar or on a camera and they never see it again and question whether, you know,

we really saw it or not. We were seeing this on such a regular basis that it was something that we

were briefing to every time. We were not only briefing to it, but we were also informing others

that did not have the proper technology to see them. And we were notifying the general public,

essentially, with our notice to airmen, essentially broadcasting out that there were objects

that we didn't understand what they were, but they were essentially a safety of flight hazard.

So for me to speak about it, it was just trying to

solve that particular problem. And that's why I spoke out about it. And there was just the day

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