We're going to get to the bottom of some shit.

This is an unusual, very unusual man that's with us today.

First of all, thank you very much for doing this man. I really appreciate it. It's an honor

I bought your book. You gave me a copy of it today, but I already have it because I bought it about five years ago

Which is crossing the Rubicon. That's when it came out, right? When did that come up?

I'm out in August of 2004.

When I first became aware of you was that speech that you gave,

I don't know where you were, but as a speech that you gave,

where you were talking in front of some judge and some sort of a courtroom somewhere and you were

explaining how you were an LA police department officer and you caught the CIA selling drugs and you

were just fucking saying it. You were just standing in front of this judge. What was that instance? Who was that?

That was, uh, you're a fighter. And you know about war and battle and stuff.

This was one of those circumstances one of my favorite axioms about

combat about fighting somebody was was given to me by a chief warrant officer

for from army criminal intelligence division don't shoot unless you get a headshot or from Army Criminal Intelligence Division.

Don't shoot unless you get a head shot.

And I had the head shot that day on the Director of Central Intelligence.

And it, you know, it's kind of like something that you can spend your whole life in a fight or or combat waiting for everything to line up but you know when it lines up and it's it's like that's what happened.

So 18 years I'd been trying to make somebody pay attention to the fact that CIA

had been bringing drugs into the United States. And I had lost a career because I blew

a whistle on that. And I'd been 18 years and I had lost a career because I blew a whistle on that and I've been 18 years and I finally got a chance to nail a guy.

That seems so crazy that you're the first guy to come out with that.

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