Hi there, I'm Jason Gautz, and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

Think about all the images you see in a day, the advertisements, the photos and videos as you

search the web or scroll through social media if you do that. Now think back a century and a half

or so to when photography was new.

Imagine the first time a British monarch saw a picture of an Inuit family or vice versa.

What did they make of each other?

What did it remake in themselves?

My guest today, photographer Lindsay Adario, has spent over two decades traveling the world

taking intimate and

dramatic photos, often of lives in crisis. The perpetrators and victims of tyranny, revolution,

famine, and rape. Her work spans over 70 countries and has won her a MacArthur Fellowship

and a Pulitzer Prize, but has never been gathered into a book of its own until now.

Of Love and War gives her most compelling photos the space they deserve, along with essays,

interview excerpts and letters she wrote home to process the things she was witnessing.

Lindsay's pictures offer people like myself, living out our lives in privileged circumstances,

a window into the beauty, suffering, and everyday humanity of our

contemporaries across the world. And like it or not, ready or not, when you stop scrolling

long enough to look into one of these images, it looks back into you. Welcome to think again,

Lindsay. Thank you so much. First of all, what was that task like going through all of your stuff and trying to decide what was worthy of inclusion?

I mean, I knew that I always eventually wanted to put something like this together.

So I have, you know, over the years, of course, there are bodies of work that have sort of sat with me over time and that I kept going back to that whenever I do public speaking, I always sort of

show those bodies of work. And so a few years ago, I started putting together these folders

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