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The BEMA Podcast

170: 1 John — Love and Truth

The BEMA Podcast

BEMA Discipleship

Hermeneutics, Religion & Spirituality, Scripture, Jewish Context, Biblical, Judaism, Bible, Christianity

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2020

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Marty Solomon and Brent Billings discuss the letter of 1 John and his insistence on the role that love plays in truth—and not the other way around.

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0:00.0

This is the Baymull podcast with Marty Salman. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today we discuss the letter of first John and his insistence on the role that love plays in truth and not the other way around.

0:16.5

Yep. We've mentioned before. It's time to go back to John. We even talked about John for a little while. We're gonna do a lot of John here at the end of session four.

0:25.0

We've got a lot of John talking about. Comes back with Avengers. No pun intended.

0:33.0

Oh, Revelation jokes. Finish is strong. Here you go. First John, let's see here. We've mentioned before John moved where Brent to biblical Asia Minor.

0:45.0

Asia and Asia Minor. Yeah, Pastor to Asia. Yeah, absolutely. Mostly until he was banished.

0:51.0

Yep. Well, I mean, then even that thing to be what we think he even died in that same region, if not even if itself.

0:59.0

So yeah, Pat must be just off the coast. That's what I'm telling you. But we'll get to that maybe a little exiled. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah, exiled to Pat. There you go. Yes. A prisoner, if you will.

1:10.0

Yes, John was known as the pastor to Asia. John was an expert as we've already seen in his gospel. That'd be way back in session three when we talked about John's gospel.

1:20.0

And I do. I know there's a huge debate about whether or not John wrote all these. I'm up the opinion he did. I think John wrote the gospel of John. I think the same John wrote for a second and third John.

1:29.0

And I think John wrote Revelation. It's not a popular school. That's a opinion. But it's one that I take. So there you go.

1:35.0

But we have already seen in. And one of the reason I think that Brent, I can't even finish a sentence without getting pulled off on much tangent.

1:42.0

That's what that's what the listeners are here for. So let's tangentially move forward. Well, the thing that the one reason I think that as I see the same themes and there's a there's a big scholarly conversation about whether or not there's a school kind of like the school of John.

2:03.0

Echanian school. I'm never quite sure how they say that. They say Echanian literature. Echanian. Echanian. Echanan. This how you say John and Hebrew Echanian school. Anyway, some people have thought like there's a school where like people were trained under a similar thought pattern similar methods to what John used. I mean, I get it. But there's some really similar trends similar heart. And it could be a school of people that's all been taught to think a certain way. I just don't I don't like to read it that way. I think it's the same. Same guy. Same guy. Same guy.

2:32.0

Same. Same guy. Same author we have here. But we've seen that he's an expert in talking to the audience of Asia and Asia Minor and ways that Matthew, Mark Luke, they just weren't.

2:43.0

We have record in the writings of Pauli Carp, who happened to be John's disciple. By the way, Pauli Carp is an ancient kind of a church father, father of the faith, John's disciple.

2:54.0

Let's see coming back in session five. Do we talk about him? I believe we will spend maybe a little bit of time there. Yeah. Absolutely. Not a ton. We will end up recommending a ton of writings if you want to read up on Pauli Carp, but that'll be session five. But yeah, we have and his writings. We have record that the churches in Asia are using this letter.

3:15.0

First John, which is being circulated among the churches in that region. It could be said that this letter is written in order to combat a Nostocarasy. What book did we look at? Nostocarasy, Brent?

3:30.0

Colossians. Colossians. Excellent. Same same idea that we said in the Colossians. There was a Nostocarasy, a Nostoc way of thought known as Dositism. We should link that.

3:40.0

Put that in the show notes, Brent. Billions. Find a Wikipedia article on Dositism. D.O.C. ET. I.S.M. Dositism.

3:50.0

A belief that argued against the humanity of Jesus and claimed he never really came in the flesh. Like he was here. He was Jesus, but he was always like of a more spiritual divine nature, not really flesh nature.

4:03.0

There are many statements in John's first letter that would make sense if he's arguing for a very physical incarnation. If that was like a very intentional argument he's trying to make.

4:12.0

There are a lot of statements to talk about this physical nature of this Jesus who took on flesh. Nevertheless, my favorite part of the letter, first John, is his insistence on loving each other.

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