17 Units in 3 Years During High Rates with This Low-Risk “BRRRR” Strategy

Real Estate Rookie

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🗓️ 3 March 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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These two college teammates built a sizable real estate portfolio in just three years by using what they call the “delayed BRRRR strategy.” They’ve used this specific real estate investing tactic (and the regular BRRRR strategy) to turn one duplex into more than a dozen rental properties for their portfolio. They didn’t start with a ton of money and only got into investing together in 2021 when housing competition was high, and rates were soon to rise sharply. So, how does their strategy work, and how can YOU use it to buy more rental properties? In this episode, these innovative investors, Joe Escamilla and Sam Farman, talk about why it’s CRUCIAL to have great real estate investing partners and how choosing the right one can be the rocket fuel you need to build a financial freedom-enabling rental property portfolio. They share the new “BRRRR” strategy (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat) they’re using to get steady real estate cash flow AND boost their equity at the same time. We’ll also talk about raising private capital and creating your own real estate syndication so you can buy more real estate using other people’s money and pass along the returns to your investors. Joe and Sam have built a real estate portfolio most investors can only dream of achieving, and they did it all in only three years, during high rates, and while working full-time jobs. Stick around to hear how you can do it, too! In This Episode We Cover: The new-and-improved “BRRRR” strategy that lets you “recycle” your money Signs of a perfect real estate partner and why getting this right is CRUCIAL for growth Cash-out refinancing to reinvest in real estate and grow your portfolio faster Why you DON’T want to sit on the sidelines while rates are high and competition is low Syndications and how to raise money for your next real estate deal And So Much More! Links from the Show Ashley's BiggerPockets Profile Tony's BiggerPockets Profile Join BiggerPockets for FREE Real Estate Rookie Facebook Group Real Estate Rookie YouTube Follow Real Estate Rookie on Instagram Ask Your Question for a Future Rookie Reply “Like” Real Estate Rookie on Facebook Rich Dad Poor Dad Try REsimpli, The Only All-In-One Real Estate Investor CRM Software That Helps You Manage Data, Marketing, Sales, and Operations Grab the Book on the “BRRRR” Strategy Sign Up for the Real Estate Rookie Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders The Beginner’s Guide to “Infinite Investing” with the BRRRR Method Connect with Joe Connect with Sam Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (01:01) The Perfect Partnership? (03:35) First Duplex in 2021 (11:09) This Works WITH High Rates (15:56) Using Other People’s Money (29:59) The New 2025 “BRRRR” Strategy (27:51) Who Does What? Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-530 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. I'm Ashley Care. And if you've been listening recently,
0:05.7	you know that we've had an addition to the Bigger Pockets family. Tony and his wife just welcomed
0:11.1	a baby girl into the world. So to give Tony some extra time with his family, we're bringing you
0:16.4	an episode from the Bigger Pockets Real Estate podcast. In this episode, we'll hear from Joe and Sam
0:22.0	and how they've used a new Burr strategy to scale their portfolio even during this high
0:28.5	interest rate time. And we're going to go over how they've been able to leverage their
0:33.7	partnership as a superpower in building the real estate business.
0:42.7	Sam and Joe, welcome to the Bigger Pockets podcast.
0:45.7	Thanks for joining us today.
0:47.3	Thank you so much for having us.
0:48.9	It's an honor.
0:50.2	We're both longtime listeners, and we're so excited to chat with you today.
0:54.5	Thank you, Dave.
0:55.4	Well, great.
0:56.0	I'm eager to hear your story and hopefully how Bigger Pockets has helped that if you've
0:59.8	been a long-time listener.
1:01.5	So, Sam, maybe you could just give us a little background.
1:03.6	You and Joe are both joining us today.
1:06.8	How did you guys first meet and get into real estate?
1:10.7	Joe and I met in college, playing college
1:12.8	soccer together. And, you know, we've been friends for a very long time, even long before we
1:18.2	were business partners. And we actually interned together at the mortgage company that Joe still
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