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Leading

17: LEADING: Gerry Adams: The Troubles, Margaret Thatcher, and the IRA

Leading

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Politics, Government, News

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

How much do you know about Thatcher's back channels with Irish republicans during the Troubles? What are Gerry Adams' emotions towards the 1984 Brighton hotel bombing, looking back now in 2023? Who were the most important people in the negotiations that brought peace to the island of Ireland? Alastair and Rory sat down with the former Sinn Féin president to discuss all these questions and more in today's episode of Leading. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive a weekly newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Email: [email protected] Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Restis Politics.com.

0:22.0

Welcome to another episode of the Rest of the policy in leading with me,

0:22.5

Alist Campbell and with me Rory Stewart.

0:24.5

I'm me Jerry Adams.

0:25.6

Well, thank you for introducing yourself and let me say, Jerry Adams, let's describe Jerry Adams.

0:30.4

I think Jerry Adams to some a heroic freedom fighter leading his country to

0:36.2

unity and peace and prosperity to others a figure of hate and seen as a man of

0:41.8

terror and violence.

0:44.0

To me, the guy that I saw very, very often

0:48.2

in close proximity, particularly with Tony Blair

0:51.3

and Bertier and he we've just bumped into and an integral part of what became

0:56.1

the peace process and the Good Friday Agreement. So something of anigma. It was only because we persuaded you and your government to embrace peace.

1:07.0

And when Mr Blair changed British government policy to actually talking to Sinn Féin.

1:15.1

Imagine, I just imagine that the British government wouldn't talk to a person who

1:21.9

had a man did as an MP leading a political party which had a declared

1:27.2

publicised peace objective.

1:29.8

But you moved before that in a sense?

1:32.8

You know, of course we did, yeah. But you can only move so far and in fairness to you and to

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