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The Al Franken Podcast

169: Harry Litman on the Trump Trial

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Former U.S. Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Harry Litman joins to discuss the Trump hush money trial. Both sides have rested. Harry has been in the courtroom watching the trial. With closing arguments coming next week, we break down what has transpired and all the possible outcomes Trump could expect as his verdict looms. 


Harry has been covering the trial for the Los Angeles Times. Read his reporting here

https://www.latimes.com/people/harry-litman

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, we got a great one today, you know, for a change.

0:09.6

Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about, Harry Littman, former U.S. attorney,

0:15.2

prosecutor for the Justice Department, who we've had on the podcast before, always great.

0:22.9

I've been watching and listening to Harry on MSNBC, the Microsoft National Broadcasting Company Network during the Donald

0:31.0

Trump Hush Money trial. And sometimes they get a little wonky on there. And I wanted to do

0:37.3

one with Harry where my audience can clearly understand what the case is against Trump and what we're going to hear on Tuesday from the defense and from the prosecution on whom the burden will be to prove its case.

0:53.2

The burden, of course, not on the defense. The burden,

0:57.5

as always on the prosecution to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. And it's the jury

1:03.9

who decides whether the prosecution did meet that threshold. So the defense in New York State

1:09.0

goes first, and again, it doesn't have to prove anything.

1:12.9

They'll get three hours to make their case, but they don't have to take all that time.

1:17.1

They may want to, but again, the burden of proof is not on them. It's on the prosecution.

1:22.8

And the prosecution will also get three hours to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Donald Trump

1:28.7

violated New York state law by creating falsified business records, which is a misdemeanor,

1:35.1

but becomes a felony when it's done in service of another crime, say, another misdemeanor,

1:41.3

such as tax fraud or a federal election law violation or a state

1:46.6

election law violation. Now, we'll go around the barn a couple times on that just to make

1:52.4

sure it's clear on what it will take to convict Trump of a felony. So we'll do our damnedists here

2:00.6

to make it all very clear. I hope we succeeded. It's a felony. So we'll do our damnedus here to make it all very clear. I hope we succeeded.

2:04.5

It's a complicated case, but hopefully Harry and I, and mainly Harry, will clarify this for you in the

2:09.8

next 35 minutes or so. So as I say, we got a great one today, you know, for a change with a great Harry Littman.

2:25.5

Harry Lidman is with us, former U.S. Attorney, Deputy Assistant Attorney General.

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