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🗓️ 18 October 2021
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Games are everywhere, but why exactly do we play them? It seems counterintuitive, to artificially invent goals and obstacles just so we can struggle to achieve them. (And in some games, like Twister, the fun is in losing, even though you’re supposed to try to win.) C. Thi Nguyen is a philosopher who has developed a theory of games as an art form whose medium is agency. Within each game, we have defined goals, powers, and choices, and by playing different games we can experiment with different forms of agency. A dark side of this idea is to be found in “gamification” — turning ordinary-life activities into a game. Games give us clarity of values, and that clarity can be seductive but misleading, leading people to turn to conspiracy theories about the real world.
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C. Thi Nguyen received his Ph.D. in philosophy from the University of California, Los Angeles. He is currently associate professor of Philosophy at the University of Utah. He has written public philosophy for venues such as Aeon and The New York Times, and is an editor of the aesthetics blog Aesthetics for Birds. He was the recipient of the 2020 Article Prize from the American Philosophical Association. His recent book is Games: Agency as Art.
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0:00.0 | Hello everyone, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast. |
0:02.6 | I'm your host, Sean Carroll. |
0:04.2 | And today we're going to be talking about games, which is a topic we've talked about |
0:07.9 | before. |
0:08.9 | We've talked about game theory over and over again. |
0:11.4 | Also just the design of games is something we once talked about with Frank Lance, who was |
0:15.6 | a game designer. |
0:16.9 | So today we're going to dive into the philosophy of games. |
0:20.6 | What could be a more Mindscapey topic than that? |
0:23.8 | Because games are an interesting thing. |
0:25.3 | And you think about it, I mean we set up these struggles for ourselves, right? |
0:30.4 | These goals that it takes effort to reach. |
0:33.2 | And we do this intentionally. |
0:34.8 | Why in the world do we do that? |
0:36.0 | Whether it's playing solitaire or playing basketball or whatever. |
0:39.3 | Sometimes we play games against other people, but often we just do it against ourselves |
0:43.1 | to sort of reach a kind of goal. |
0:45.6 | So today's guest is Teenwen, who is a philosopher at the University of Utah, who's thought a lot |
0:50.8 | about games. |
0:52.2 | And he has a theory of what games are, a philosophy, one might even say, of what games are. |
0:57.5 | And the theory is that games are a form of art, which many people have said. |
1:02.6 | But the form of art isn't just visuals or even stories. |
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