Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John

Delin. It is November 3, 2022 in the United States. I'm guessing it's November 4, 2022 in

Australia. We are here to cover what has come out over the past few days and or weeks. A Mormon

Church tax scandal in Australia that is also making waves in Canada because it's part of

a joint news story supported by both 60 minutes Australia and the Canadian Broadcasting Company

or the CBC. And to cover this very important story, we have back with us two guests who

should be familiar to diehard Mormon Stories fans. First of all, we have Dr. Simon Sutherton,

who has been an important co-host in a series that we've held in 2022 around kind of Mormon

truth claims versus science. Simon Sutherton is the author of several books. He's a geneticist.

I got to know Simon through his book, Losing a Lost Tribe, but he's written several things since then.

But Simon Sutherton, Arshad, say, Bishop Sutherton, welcome back to Mormon Stories.

Thanks, Bishop Sutherton, I guess. No, no, no, no, no, no, tell him, level once a Bishop,

I was a Bishop, right, right, Neville? Correct. So, Bishop Sutherton, welcome back to Mormon Stories. Thank you, John. It's good to be here. Anything you want to say about your own introduction? Me. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine.

Oh, you could say we're going to be picking up the Mormon Doctrine versus Science podcast series again fairly soon.

We'll probably launch straight into the genetic ancestry of the first Americans.

Excellent. The research of the last 20 years is just amazing, particularly last 10 years.

So, and it just completely supports all of the conclusions that we drew 20 years ago.

Absolutely. Well, that's been really enjoyable, really important contribution this year.

And of course, you also have a book called The Sacred Curse, which is kind of an update on DNA and the Book of Mormon.

The subtitle is How Native American DNA Exposes Mormonisms Laminate Myth. So anyway, welcome back Simon.

What's that? Which they can access from your website. Absolutely. I'll leave a little link to that.

But Simon, you also play an important role in this story that everybody's been messaging me about. So, we're super glad to have you on.

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