I wear a few different hats as a CFO, you know, sometimes it's referred to as chief fixing officer.

Wherever there's a fire in the business, you know, I'm often there first.

Whatever hats CFOs like him run need to wear,

Sages, tools and insights can make sure they fit.

Sage, helping business flow.

What them back to the true Jordy podcast, I am Brian and today's guest is one of my favorite fighters of all time.

Not just for the in ring performances, but for the Mike skills for the entertainment for everything he bought to it.

Surely he's got to be in the hall of fame.

It's Chale, Sonne and thanks for coming on me.

Brian, what has happened to me and I've been counting down the days on pop to be here with you.

May, um, honestly, this is a surreal moment.

I remember getting the pizzas and beers in with all my boys watching you fight and beat the living hell out of Anderson silver.

And little did I know that one day I'd get to have a talk with you, man.

It is such an honor.

And you know, I mentioned the hall of fame there.

We seen, um, you know, Cowboys, Soroni get his little moment the other day and it was a lovely moment.

But how on earth are you not in the hall of fame? Surely.

You know, I got I got to tell you that and that is something that I want.

Like guys kind of play coy with that. Oh, whatever happens and I don't really care.

I do care. Like I think that's a great honor.

You know, when somebody picks at in your career's done and somebody else,

one of your peers, a group of your people look back and they bestow that.

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