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Mormon Stories Podcast

1678: Tommy “THETOMSTERS” & Madison Johnson

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2022

⏱️ 261 minutes

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Summary

Join us for two unique Mormon Stories as John Dehlin & Samantha Shelley interview Tommy & Madison Johnson. Tommy made fans and haters on both sides of belief when he hit the TikTok scene during COVID with funny skits on the peculiarities of Mormonism. What viewers couldn't see was that Tommy was struggling to know how to deal with many of the messier topics in Church History as well as the darker sides of modern Mormon doctrines such as the stance against the LGBTQ+ community, which includes his own sister, while ALSO navigating his mixed-faith marriage with Madison who stopped believing entirely after their Temple Marriage. Madison describes her life as having been "born into a faith crisis" due to stigma and family shame around being conceived out of wedlock by a teen mother. Madison's struggles with the faith continued through most of her life despite her levels of activity/involvement in the Church, even through her Temple Marriage with Tom. Madison leaves the Church upon finding the CES letter and she and Tommy work through what this will mean for their marriage, and even end up on an episode of the podcast "Marriage on a Tightrope" with Katie & Allan Mount. They finish off with where the couple is at today and how life is going since all of the changes they've been through. Guests:


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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories Podcast. I am one of your

0:05.9

co-hosts for today, John DeLin. I am excited to have writing Shotgun for today, back in

0:11.4

the house Samantha Shelley of Self on the Shell face Samantha. Hello John. How you doing?

0:16.9

Doing well. Yeah, thanks for joining us. Thank you. You are excited for today's episode.

0:21.9

I am. Yeah, I'm a fan. Yeah, you're a fan. For those of you who don't know, today we

0:27.8

are interviewing a really cool couple. We're interviewing Tommy and Madison Johnson. Hey,

0:34.3

Madison and Tommy. How you guys doing? Good. Yeah. Yeah. So some of you will know or recognize

0:42.1

Tommy's face. Tommy is a Mormon Tik Toker and Instagrammer. He is known as the Tomsters on both

0:51.8

Tik Tok and Instagram and he's a comedian and we are here to talk about his Mormon story,

0:58.6

but his amazing partner, Madison is also here and I am always elated when we can have

1:05.8

both join. There's going to be a lot we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk

1:09.5

about the Mormon story growing up in the church, different things that they faced as Mormons.

1:14.3

What they loved about the church if there were any struggles, but then we're going to

1:17.5

talk about their faith journeys, their families had faith journeys, their parents and so forth,

1:23.9

siblings maybe, but also Madison had her own faith journey that might have been a little

1:29.2

bit ahead of Tommy's, but then Tommy had his own and there is going to be some mixed faith

1:35.8

marriage themes in here as well and probably just full on faith crisis stuff and creating

1:44.0

in a social media world, in the social media Mormon world. Those are some of the major

1:50.3

highlights of what this story is going to touch on. What am I forgetting, Madison and Tommy?

1:55.7

I think he covered it pretty well. That's a good list. How are you guys feeling about

1:59.9

being on Mormon stories? Good. I know there's a point where people said,

2:06.4

okay, you should go on and I think I told them there's no chance. I'm sure they're surprised.

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