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Mormon Stories Podcast

1668: Mormon Stake Presidency Counselor Confronts General Authorities - Evan and Weston Smith Pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2022

⏱️ 163 minutes

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Summary

Trigger Warning: Suicidal Ideation
Evan Smith rose through the ranks of Mormon leadership ultimately becoming a Stake Presidency member. While serving as an LDS Bishop, Evan struggled with the Church’s positions on LGBTQ+ issues and later found out that his son Weston was gay. Even after coming out, Weston decided to serve an LDS Mission as an openly gay man, leading him to high levels of depression and heartbreaking experiences during and after coming back early from his mission.
Evan became an advocate for LGBTQ people in the Church. His position as a Stake Presidency Counselor led him to a few confrontations/discussions with General Authorities and a later meeting at Church Headquarters where they discussed Evan’s progressive beliefs on LGBTQ matters.
In Part 3 of 3, Evan describes getting called as a Stake Counselor, his attempts to be an ally for LGBTQ individuals and his subsequent faith crisis. Evan has a few debates/confrontations with Area Seventy Elder McCune (higher than Stake Presidency in Mormon leadership) over his gay son. Evan emails Apostles and other leaders on how the Church can change to be more loving and accepting of LGBTQ members resulting in a meeting with General Authority Allen D. Haynie. Evan continues faith deconstruction when his wife begins her faith crisis, and they both come to see the issues with sexism in the Church, biblical scholarship opening up new issues, and the family’s ultimate decision to leave the Church.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon stories podcast time your host John DeLin

0:04.6

It is August 16th 2022 and we are here in part three of

0:10.4

Another epic family Mormon story

0:13.8

With Evan Smith and Weston Smith. Hey guys. Hello. How you doing good? You wiped out yet? Are you ready?

0:21.3

You ready your gas tanks are filled for part three why not both? Yeah

0:25.2

Full gas tanks ready to go. We're here with Harado Samano. Hey Harado. Hey John. Hey everybody. Yeah and

0:33.5

So just a recap if you haven't watched parts one and two you want to pause and stop now go back and watch parts one and two

0:40.0

But basically part one was all about Evan Smith being raised in Murray Utah to orthodox faithful Mormon parents and him doing all the Mormon things

0:50.8

culminating in him getting married in the temple going on a mission going to law school and settling in the Boston area and

0:58.4

ascending his away

1:00.6

up through the Mormon patriarchy

1:03.0

into the position of a branch president and eventually Mormon Bishop and

1:07.9

raising his Mormon family with his dear wife and

1:11.6

also pursuing a position in corporate American law

1:16.0

focusing on startups and new business companies and ventures and

1:21.6

When we left part one he was a Mormon Bishop a member of his branch slash war to come out to him as gay and then eventually his son

1:30.9

Came out to him as gay and

1:33.3

Eventually decided to go serve a mission. So that was part one. We paused

1:38.0

Evan's story. We jumped to part two where son Weston told us about

1:43.0

Growing up gay in the Mormon church with your dad being Bishop what that was like

1:49.0

How he reached a point of sort of heavy suicidal ideation

1:53.8

Prior to serving a mission he comes out to his parents his aunt his brother

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