166: Richard Packham and How the LDS Church Creates Unnecessary Enemies Pt. 3
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 28 June 2010
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
In this 4-part series, we interview Richard Packham -- co-founder of the Ex-Mormon foundation. Throughout the interview and via Richard's own personal story, we explore 3 ways in which the LDS Church creates unnecessary enemies: 1) By not being honest about its own history (e.g. teaching accurate history), 2) By breaking up families (when one no longer believes), and 3) By harming the loved ones of those who have left the church. To conclude (part 4), Richard discusses the benefits of religious belief in general and the LDS church specifically, along with the mission of the ExMormon foundation, and bears a final testimony regarding the joy/happiness he has experienced since leaving the church. NOTE: The purpose of this interview is NOT to encourage people to stay or leave the LDS church. It is simply to: 1) Seek to understand and to validate the path of those who have felt compelled to leave the church, and 2) Explore ways in which the church can seek to no longer create unnecessary enemies.
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| 0:18.0 | Well, so we've covered two of the main points that I wanted to cover. |
| 0:23.0 | Let's turn to the third and then I'm going to sneak a fourth one on you. |
| 0:28.0 | But I think you'll like it. |
| 0:31.0 | So I'm going to set this up by talking about your sister. |
| 0:37.0 | Jane Ann Peterson is it? |
| 0:39.0 | No, Jane Ann Hunter. |
| 0:41.0 | Jane Ann Hunter. |
| 0:42.0 | Okay. |
| 0:43.0 | So, Jane Ann Hunter, when Marguine I, my wife, moved to Logan, Marguine's mother was involved in a book club, a marvelous splendid book club that had been |
| 0:57.0 | in existence for several years prior. |
| 1:00.0 | In fact, she's still involved in this book club and it's a wonderful book club. |
| 1:03.0 | I've attended it and I've spoken at it in a review to book. |
| 1:08.0 | And I was touched by how much this book club meant to my wife Marguine. |
| 1:16.0 | She just said the women there are thoughtful and they're loving and they're witty. |
| 1:23.0 | And she talked about one woman in particular that was so delightful and warm and funny and charming. |
| 1:32.0 | And her name was Jane Ann Hunter. |
| 1:35.0 | She said that Jane Ann would sit there and she'd like to knit. |
| 1:38.0 | She would sit there and listen to the book club and knit and often stay very quiet. |
| 1:43.0 | But occasionally she would come up with these most insightful and witty and sharp commentaries often |
| 1:51.0 | that were alternative to the true believing Mormon perspective. |
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