5 • 970 Ratings
🗓️ 7 August 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Even on paths designed for deep transformation, we often resist the very changes that would liberate us. In this episode, Raghunath and Kaustubha explore the symbolic meaning of the cart demon (Śakaṭāsura) from Krishna’s pastimes—and how it represents the dead weight we carry in the form of outdated beliefs, mechanical rituals, and spiritual pride. Drawing on insights from Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura and the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam, they challenge us to ask: are we actually changing, or just performing?
If you’ve ever felt like you’re dragging around a cart full of spiritual dead weight, this one’s for you.
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0:00.0 | even if we are involved in some spiritual practice, the tendency, I think it, I'm going to go out on a limb here, Rognath. |
0:10.0 | Say it. |
0:10.8 | I'm going to say that you take any spiritual tradition or religious tradition, and the majority of the people are engaging on a relatively superficial level. |
0:23.1 | Sure. |
0:23.7 | I get it. |
0:24.8 | Right? |
0:25.2 | Because we're happy to the teachings may appeal to us. |
0:31.2 | The community may appeal to us. |
0:34.4 | The outfits, the clothing may. |
0:35.8 | The outfits may also appeal to us. |
0:38.9 | The Sunday feast may appeal to us. |
0:42.0 | The externals may, and superficial basically means the external, right, on the surface level. |
0:47.3 | The externals may appeal to us on one level or another, but actual transformation, which is what the practice is promising, is going to be challenging, right? |
1:00.6 | And therefore, do we really listen or do we really see or do we want to hear and do we want to see? |
1:07.3 | Or is it too challenging? |
1:09.6 | There's something about, I suppose, about stability, right? |
1:15.4 | Like we need to feel that our world is stable. |
1:18.5 | And perhaps going deep into spirituality means letting go of something that appears stable. |
1:29.3 | Oh, now, Bhagavati, Vasudevaea. |
1:34.3 | Oh, Nama, Bhagavati Vasu Deba |
1:45.9 | ia. |
1:50.4 | Live from |
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