Welcome to How Leaders Lead, where every week you get to listen in while I interview some of the very best leaders in the world.

I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple you can apply as you develop into a better leader.

That's what this podcast is all about.

Well, my guest today has an amazing resume unlike anyone I know. Joe Mowgli is the former head coach of Coastal Carolina University

and the former chairman and CEO of TD Ameritrade. I mean, there just aren't a lot of people out there who can be both an award

winning coach and a world-class CEO. And yet, Joe has an incredibly consistent leadership style,

no matter what he's doing. For him, it's all about the people he serves, whether he's leading

football players or salespeople. He knows

it's not about him, it's about his team. They're the ones out there getting stuff done,

and his job is to support them and serve them and coach them to success. When you approach

leadership with a coaching mentality like that, everything changes.

And Joe is the perfect leader to show us how it's done.

So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, Joe Mogli.

I really want to dive deep into how you lead, but first I have to ask you.

You've had so much success as a football coach and as a business leader.

How do you balance the combination of being confident, the confidence it takes to succeed,

with the humility to stay grounded.

While the question is a good question, one of the key qualities a leader has to have is

the recognition that I call love, and in this case it called the commitment to well-being of

others. And you've got to recognize that leadership is not about you. it's about your people. So by definition,

just the fact that you understand that humbles you, whether it's in the business world,

whether it's in the military, whether it's in education, whether it's in football. It's not

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