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🗓️ 19 February 2023
⏱️ 139 minutes
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In this 162nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
This week, we discuss John Campbell’s discussion of an autopsy report, and his discussion of drug recommendations in 2020 Britain raises, which raises serious questions about medical intent. We discuss scientific models—the good kind—and how Campbell’s first video reveals the correctness of our model of mRNA vaccine injury. Then we discuss a research paper, Wanzhu et al 2023, which purports to find that people vaccinated against Covid are less likely to go to the ER, to be hospitalized, and to die, than are unvaccinated people who have a history of Covid. We discuss whether or not this is true. Finally, we discuss the role of stigma and shame in a functioning society.
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Mentioned in this episode:
John Campbell on autopsy: https://youtu.be/NZhzWzoPB3M
Weinstein and Ciszek, D 2002. The reserve-capacity hypothesis: evolutionary origins and modern implications of the trade-off between tumor-suppression and tissue-repair. Experimental gerontology, 37(5): 615-627. http://176.9.41.242/doc/longevity/2002-weinstein.pdf
John Campbell on euthanasia in the pandemic? https://youtu.be/3BqbVo2sQi0
NBC reports that natural immunity is better than vaccination in preventing new infection: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/natural-immunity-protective-covid-vaccine-severe-illness-rcna71027
Wanzhu et al 2023. SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death in Vaccinated and Infected Individuals by Age Groups in Indiana, 2021‒2022. AJPH: https://ajph.aphapublications.org/
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0:00.0 | Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse live stream podcast number. Wow did I forget to look it up? It is it does have a number. It is numbered. It is numbered. Yes, we decide to number these. Yes, and it's in the one still in the one 60 somewhere. Indeed. Indeed. Yeah, it's one 62. I think if if my notes are correct. Okay. Well, I presume your notes are correct. We'll mandate it. We'll we'll |
0:30.0 | we buy Fiat. It's number 162. No issue of primeness. Um, you are. It's a great point. I am Dr. Brett Weinstein. You are Dr. Heather Hying. We are here hosting. We have plenty to discuss. I should tell you I am not as you well know. Not totally on my game. Having just recovered from COVID. Yes, COVID. Do you remember COVID thing? You know, I was going to drop that into our discussion. |
1:00.0 | I was going to be surprising. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, having just had COVID it may still be surprising to me at least not being entirely on my game. |
1:12.0 | Well, I have stepped on on that presentation, but I will say it is I had one rough night treated it aggressively from the get go. |
1:27.0 | I spent five days in isolation of feeling horsey. I did not take horse past proper, but I certainly did take some medications that are well understood by those who well understand things to to address COVID symptoms. |
1:44.0 | Be useful to treat a wide variety of problems in both people and other organisms, including horses. Right, including horses. Right. |
1:53.0 | But anyway, I will say I had a very mild case. It was quite annoying in the sense of, you know, every time you get sick with this disease, you have to think about how much damage it does. And although it's not a very dangerous disease to those of us who are healthy at this point, it is certainly does damage across a wide number of systems, which is troubling. And, you know, as we talked about extensively at the beginning of the pandemic, there is this question. |
2:22.0 | Those who called this thing forth from a bat cave and enhanced it have inflicted something on us permanently and OK, so maybe you get COVID every year or two and it compromises a week of your life and presumably for reasons that we will talk about later on in the podcast. |
2:42.0 | Accelerates your rate of aging across multiple tissues. |
2:47.0 | I'm sorry, Zach, can I get a towel? The cat just spilled a bunch of water all over the tech. |
2:52.0 | This is not as bad as the pandemic, but bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. |
2:57.0 | If I had my computer, maybe about to fritz out is I got a situation anyway, well, it's on the courts and such. Just you could just throw it to me. I'll just deal with it. |
3:05.0 | Perfect. OK, yes, going on. What were we talking about? You were talking about the tissue damage. But anyway, my point is one of the things that I said early on in our day. |
3:16.0 | On in our discussions was that the cost of the pandemic, no matter how mild this disease gets is effectively indefinitely large if we let it get to the point that we are permanently stuck with COVID. |
3:32.0 | And that is where we appear to be. It is now people, even people who are stuck with that believed that it might be addressed and driven to extinction early, no longer believe that I no longer think it's possible with current tech to drive it to extinction. |
3:44.0 | So anyway, it's a point about what if we just take all of my future cases of COVID until I am gone from whatever thing ultimately takes me out. |
3:55.0 | Right, how many weeks of my life are going to be compromised by somebody's idiotic decision to engage and gain a function research on that Corona viruses. |
4:04.0 | Right, that's a huge cost, even just to me personally. And then if you scale that up across all of the people of the earth who are going to be suffering from something, even if it's just cold like, right, if you have seven more colds in your life that are the result of Anthony Fauci, right, that's a pretty big cost for one dude to inflict on you personally for his own idiocy. |
4:25.0 | And that's the least of what might be going on. And that is the least. And again, as I will discuss later on in the podcast, a proper model of the biology underlying this says that it's not just the weeks that you lose because you're sick. |
4:40.0 | That is all borrowing from your lifetime capacity to repair your own tissues. And so the point is it is accelerating your rate of death. The reason most of us do not reach the maximum human age is that over the lifetime we spend the resources that might get you to 120, |
4:56.0 | fending off, you know, lose damage, all sorts of things. And anyway, so they have now added another one, even if it's a mild disease that we get periodically and it's just annoying the cost is still arbitrarily huge. |
5:11.0 | This is absolutely true. And, and of course, it's also true that, you know, it's hard to meet anyone now or to hear of anyone really who hasn't had it at this point. And so many people, you know, most people have some sort of a mild case and it's fine, right, they appear to be fine with all of the caveats that you have just made. |
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