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The Rest Is Politics

162. Small boats, Zimbabwe since Mugabe, and Trump's anti-mafia indictment

The Rest Is Politics

Goalhanger

News, Politics, Government

4.511.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What is the best way to confront the crisis of small boats in the Channel? How has Zimbabwe changed since the rule of Robert Mugabe? Why are the Tories acting like they're in opposition? Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more on today’s episode of The Rest Is Politics. TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: restispolitics@gmail.com Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the rest of politics with me, Yalester Campbell, and me, Rory Stewart.

0:12.0

And Rory, you and America, when we're going to talk about Trump, I'm not in Zimbabwe,

0:18.0

but we're going to talk about Zimbabwe where some very important elections are coming up,

0:23.0

and I fear all sorts of bad stuff could already be happening and it's going to keep happening.

0:28.0

And then I think in the second half, we should maybe talk a bit about this business of our,

0:34.0

the government seems to think that every week has to be called something.

0:38.0

We've had stopped the boats week, which was a complete disaster for them.

0:43.0

And now apparently this is NHS week.

0:46.0

So they're clearly going for their very strong points, aren't they? Stop the boats in the NHS.

0:50.0

Well, it's slightly sort of mysterious that.

0:52.0

And so we can get into that a little bit.

0:54.0

I mean, yeah. And maybe as we go to the end, I'd like to ask you whether you really,

0:57.0

if you'd been in that position, you'd be maturing on the NHS when Labour's leading so heavily on that issue.

1:02.0

Yeah, exactly.

1:04.0

And then I think we should also talk a little bit about the far right in Europe.

1:09.0

I mentioned last week that the alternative for Deutschland, the German far right party,

1:15.0

I said on the podcast that they had sort of cleansed themselves of some of the worst elements.

1:21.0

I got quite a lot of German people say, no, they have not.

1:25.0

And I've been digging in a bit deeper.

1:27.0

So I think it's quite a lot of interesting stuff to say about them.

1:30.0

But shall we kick off not far from where you are?

1:33.0

With what happened in Georgia last night?

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