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I think there needs to be a shift from how to save the Amazon rainforest

to how to best support

the Amazon's oldest guardians and its most experienced protectors, the indigenous people.

That was Mitch Anderson, the founder and executive director of Amazon Frontlines, which is an

international group of human rights lawyers, environmental activists,

forestry specialists, and others who work to support the struggles of indigenous peoples and

defend their rights to land, life, and cultural survival in the Amazon rainforest.

Stay tuned as we're about to go into part two of our conversation with Mitch.

So if you have a nerdy, be sure to tune into episode 161 first, which is the episode

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