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Obscura: A True Crime Podcast

162: Marc Fogle - Cause and Effect

Obscura: A True Crime Podcast

Justin Drown

True Crime, Personal Journals, History, Documentary, News, Society & Culture

4.6 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Listener, today's story is a study in consequences—the kind that sneak up on you in the silence after a mistake. We begin with a personal tale: a moment of breaking, a walk into the night, and the cold realization of what it costs to leave something behind. But it’s in the second half where things truly darken. In Vancouver, Washington, CDL driver Mark Fogel crashes his vehicle after drinking and spirals into a mental and emotional freefall that ends in bloodshed. A simple DUI becomes a fatal standoff, and a man already undone by guilt crosses a line that can’t be uncrossed.

Listener, not every tragic end comes with intent—but some do. And this one… it’s hard to forget.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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everything secure. Welcome, listener. I'm glad you're here. Take a seat next to the fire.

1:15.6

Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark. ... Listener, today's episode deals with the weight of consequences.

1:45.2

When I was a young man, we're talking 18 years old.

1:49.0

I remember I worked for 7-Eleven.

1:52.4

At the time, I had moved to a new area from the Orlando area to the Tampa area.

2:00.4

I was about halfway through 18, and I needed a job when I got there, and I got hired at 7-Eleven.

2:07.9

Right away, I didn't love the job.

2:10.7

My manager was a bit of a jerk and super hard on the new people.

2:15.8

So he got right to pushing a lot of things on me all at once without very much training.

2:24.4

Now, I just accepted that.

2:26.6

I was like, okay, that's fine.

2:28.5

I need the job.

2:29.4

I need the money, new area, figuring things out.

2:33.3

And so I pushed onward and I took the brunt of abuse at work whenever my manager would get mad, snap at me, whatever.

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