Welcome back to Shamus Popery. I'm Joe Heschmire. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

The haunting words that echo from the cross as our Lord suffers on Good Friday,

they're a powerful meditation for Holy Week. And as I mentioned in an earlier episode,

Jesus is quoting Psalm 22, which is an incredible Old Testament prophecy of the crucifixion.

But what do his words mean?

Many evangelical Protestants, particularly those from a reformed or Calvinist tradition,

have been taught that this passage proves that God the Father has turned away from God the son, abandoning him or even damning him.

Those are extraordinary claims with some serious theological implications.

And today I want to test those claims by Scripture.

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so much for your support, and I hope to see you over there. All right, let's start with John

Piper, one of the most popular preachers in the last several decades. He says of Christ's

recounting of Psalm 22. I don't think we can begin to fathom all that this would mean between the

father and the son. To be forsaken by God is the cry of the damned,

and he was damned for us. So he used these words because there was a real forsakenness.

Now, Piper is right about one thing. It is unfathomable that anyone

with a proper understanding of the Trinity could believe that the father dams the son. It's

unfathomable that somebody could believe that Jesus is both true God and damned by God. Those things

are unfathomable because they're logically incoherent.

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