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I find I often start the podcast by talking about today. Today we're going to talk to so and so. Today it's such and such on the show. Well, what

about tomorrow? Here to talk a bit about that is Kartik Sekar, Senior Data Analysts at Climax Foods and the author of After Meat.

This was part of the Sean Out with True Crime Podcast a segment in a four hour show show and since it went out live online on Sean's

YouTube channel you'll hear me interacting with the viewers. Now some of Sean's

huge and very dynamic listenership, or viewers, are a little conservative and

conspiratorial at times, so they went absolutely berserk. So try to imagine me having this conversation with the lovely polite and

enthusiastic Kartik while keeping an eye on a chat full of people writing in

capital letters.

You'll never make me eat bugs!

Which is something that Kartik didn't suggest we do,

but the conspiracy theories always come out and go,

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