Welcome to the Learn True Health Podcast. I'm your host Ashley James. This is

episode 162. I am so excited for today's interview. In fact, this is one I have been waiting to do pretty much since I launched the podcast. So can you imagine my excitement that

we're sitting down today with the Catherine Ann Boyd, one of the most special people in my life, and I'm so thrilled to have you here today.

I finally, finally get to have you to sit down and share with my listeners. It's such a treat to have you here today.

Wow, that's so awesome.

It's such an honor really because I have been listening to your podcast and going, oh my gosh, what a great

podcast you have and I just thought, wow, if I could ever be a guess that would be really something special.

So for listeners to know Catherine Ann and I met in 2003.

I had recently lost my mom in 2002 and I decided to attend a very advanced and intense leadership team management and leadership training program.

It was very intense and a lot of it went over my head

because I was you know 23 years old and kind of my life was totally in question

after losing my mom and I was re-evaluating everything so of course I decided to jump

into one of the most intense self-development programs I could,

and I ended up spending about three years in it.

Catherine Ann was my teammate and my first real experience with her was I was her coach and which is

felt like such a role reversal because I was this like you know a kid in my

20s who didn't know anything and I was responsible for for coaching

someone who was so much more advanced she has an MBA she was very high up in

the in the university system and had been coaching for many years prior to me learning or meeting her.

And so it was such a delight to connect with Catherine Ann because she lifted me up and I soon realize that the gift of being a coach, which she is, is the ability to lift people up and help them to be the best

person they can be and the best person they want to be. So that was my first real experience of the gift of being a coach. Well, Catherine and I went on to study

together in neurolinguistic programming and timeline therapy and hypnosis and we took all kinds

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