#1619 A Conversation With Lindsay Chervinsky

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History, Politics, Unitedstates, Society & Culture, American

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🗓️ 30 September 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Clay interviews author and frequent guest Lindsay Chervinsky about her splendid new book on the John Adams administration: Making the Presidency: John Adams and the Precedents that Forged the Republic. In the second of two conversations about the book, Clay asks Lindsay to justify some of her unscrupulous attacks on the life and character of Thomas Jefferson. More to the point, why did John Adams fail to be re-elected for a second term in the year 1800? How much effect did the Constitution’s 3/5 clause have on the outcome? What were Adams’ greatest contributions to American political life? Why did George Washington betray his deepest principles during the Quasi War with France in 1798? Were the Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798 the reason the Jeffersonians won in 1800 or is it more complicated than that?

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to the introduction to this special podcast edition of
0:04.3	listening to America I'm Clay Jenkins and I'm sitting in a windstorm here in North
0:07.6	court it's fun to watch the wind blow the leaves off of the trees at that time of
0:11.8	the year I just finished a conversation with
0:14.3	Dr Lindsay Trivinsky about her book making the presidency John Adams and the
0:18.7	precedents that forged the Republic a splendid book and we had another spirited conversation.
0:24.0	I did my best to defend Mr. Jefferson against her scurrilous and vicious attacks, but
0:28.0	she batted them all away as if they were mere shuttlecocks in a badminton match.
0:33.4	She's got the right stuff and she's really, really good
0:36.6	and funny, tired right now because she has been so
0:40.5	overbooked here in the last few weeks.
0:42.4	She's got a big big new job as the
0:45.0	executive director of the Washington Presidential Library and she also of
0:49.3	course has got a book launch and is speaking all over the place and has been interviewed on media for the book
0:55.9	and so on.
0:56.9	She's pretty tired but that doesn't hold her back at all.
1:01.3	So we talked about a number of things that are really interesting.
1:04.5	First of all, how does a historian operate?
1:08.0	And how do you write under the shadow of current events.
1:12.6	So her book would not have been the same book
1:15.0	if it hadn't been for January 6th,
1:16.7	the attack on the United States Capitol,
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