Hello and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me Kate Lamble.

This week the inquiry heard from senior managers at the tenant management organisation which ran the building.

And we learnt the chief executive of the TMO accepted the organisation did not complete suitable and sufficient assessments of the fire risk for those living in Grenfell Tower.

Robert Black said he understood why residents had lost faith in the TMO.

And he accepted he didn't tell the TMO's board about significant fire safety concerns.

Let's get started with the evidence then.

Robert Black was the chief executive of the Tenant Management Organisation.

He previously appeared at the inquiry in November 2018,

which you can hear in episode 92 of this podcast.

What was striking back then was how little he could remember

about what he did at Grenfell on the night of the fire.

Can you just tell us what you were doing between 245 a.m., if that's the right time, and three o'clock?

No, I mean again, it's just being there.

This time, questions focused on how the TMO managed safety in the years leading up to the fire.

Robert Black's evidence is particularly important because the organisation's health and safety policy said this.

The legal operational and financial responsibility for the management of health and safety rests with the chief executive of the TMO.

Robert Black took over as chief executive of the TMO in May 2009.

He had almost 20 years experience in the housing industry, but this was his first time in such a senior role.

He'd never received any training on fire safety management in social housing. While he was

ultimately responsible for health and safety matters at the

TMO, practically Robert Black delegated many issues to other directors. This is Robert Black's

understanding of what it legally meant to be a responsible person under the fire safety order.

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