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Seeking Wisdom with David Cancel

#160: The Psychology Episode (Essential Listening for Marketers)

Seeking Wisdom with David Cancel

Molly Sloan

Business, Entrepreneurship

5610 Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2020

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

If you only listen to one episode of Seeking Wisdom, this should be it. Why? Because this next lesson is essential to understanding everything else. Here, DC and Adam dive into psychology – the science of how and why we make decisions. Together they unlock how to gain influence, how to persuade, how to avoid past mistakes, and so much more.


Essential reading / listening for this episode:

- Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion (Robert Cialdini)

- Thinking, Fast and Slow (Daniel Kahneman)

- Human Misjudgment (a talk by Charlie Munger)


Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @DriftPodcasts


For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

Transcript

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0:00.0

And we're back. Seeking Wisdom is back, better than ever. The universe is only six-star

0:11.3

podcast here with the young, young, young nephew, Adam Schoenfeld, otherwise aka known as the Young

0:18.9

and The Last Jedi. Adam, what are we talking about today?

0:22.7

Today we're going forward in what you wish you knew when you were younger,

0:26.4

and this one's on psychology.

0:28.1

And you say, study it and restudy it.

0:30.9

And you've got a lot to stay on psychology.

0:33.6

An endless amount on psychology.

0:35.6

Boom.

0:36.5

But let's go all the way back in time. There was a point in time

0:39.7

not too long ago that I didn't care about psychology. I didn't know anything about psychology aside from

0:44.9

the few classes that I took in college. And I really didn't understand the importance of it.

0:50.8

But back then, I was the young, young, young, D.C., youngest Jedi. And I really, you know,

0:57.9

came from a background that was focused on building products, being an engineer, being super

1:03.8

logical, and ones and zeros. And so, like, I didn't really understand a couple of things. I

1:09.0

didn't understand the importance of people.

1:15.5

And now, you know, I always say like, now I say it's 99% people and 1% everything else,

1:19.4

1% being the product, the process, to go to market, the strategy, all that kind of stuff. Because it's the people part that's actually the difficult part and the part that continues

1:23.8

to evolve and continues to get and become more and more difficult over time as you scale

1:28.3

because it's the human dimension. And so like it took me a long time to figure that out. And I kind of

1:34.6

stumbled my way into it and really came from, you know, wanting to understand marketing. And even

1:43.0

though I had built marketing and sales software for a long time and

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