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I don't think we really know yet how to do it on the scale of millions or hundreds of millions of people. How do you do

cooperative governance? We have no idea at this point. But we have to start somewhere. We have to

try things. We have to experiment. And I think that's one of the things that intentional communities

offers. That was Sky Blue. And yes, that is his name, super cool. He's the executive director for the

Foundation for Intentional Community and has spent the last 20 years living in working for

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