Be the right club today.

Right club today. That's better than most.

How about in?

That is better than most.

Better than most. The most.

Expect anything different?

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Leng Up podcast.

Today's episode is going to be with Bruce

Heppner of Heppner Golf Design. Bruce is in town doing some restoration work

at the club that we play at Tim Aquana Country Club here in Jacksonville and has an impressive

resume of working on golf courses basically most of his adult life and for the last

almost 30 years he was worked with Tom Doak for 17 years. You'll hear all

about that on the podcast and he's been all over the world, lived in all kinds of

different places, worked on Bally Neal, Cape Kidnapers, Pacific Dunes, Renaissance Club.

I mean, we could have done a lot more than one hour on just all the places he's been and

places he's worked in the stories and whatnot.

But I wanted to do a New Zealand episode. I was on that part of the trip solo if you guys have seen the our

Tourist Saw series. If you have not seen that I do recommend you check that out on YouTube.

Eight episodes, six of them in Australia, two in New Zealand.

We also have a podcast that summarized the Australia leg, but haven't really broke down the

New Zealand leg.

Thought Bruce would be great to talk to on that since he was basically in charge of building Cape kidnappers.

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