#1592 Israel and Palestine are less complicated than you think: Standing for international law while condemning crimes against humanity, war crimes, antisemitism, and apartheid.
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🗓️ 11 November 2023
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
Air Date 11/10/2023
Violence and oppression are destructive and corrosive to both the victim and perpetrator and this goes a long way toward explaining many of the dynamics at play in the holy land between Israelis and Palestinians.
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SHOW NOTES
Ch. 1: Why Hamas Attacked Israel - And What's Next For Gaza - AJ+ - Air Date 10-13-23
On October 7th, Hamas launched one of the deadliest attacks on Israel in years. But why? And what does this mean for the 2.3 million people trapped in Gaza, often called the largest open-air prison on Earth?
Omer Bartov, an Israeli-American professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University, joins Mehdi to discuss Israel’s bombardment of Gaza. Bartov tells Mehdi, “I don’t think that what is happening there right now is genocide…
Ch. 3: Shock Doctrine Israel with Naomi Klein - The Bitchuation Room - Air Date 10-31-23
Weaponizing trauma to inflict more trauma is Israel's forte. Naomi Klein, author of The Shock Doctrine, No Logo, and the new book Doppelganger, joins Francesca to discuss the all out assault on the people of Gaza in retaliation for Hamas' attack.
Ch. 4: Antisemitism: An Evil, An Enemy Of Peace - Owen Jones - Air Date 10-31-23
Antisemitism is an evil in itself - it is the cause of terrible horrors over many centuries - and it is also a mortal enemy of peace in Palestine.
Shane Burley on his writing at Waging Nonviolence on white nationalists manipulating the Gaza crisis. Plus 'Rotten History.'
Ch. 6: Naomi Klein on 'Selective Information' About Israel and Gaza - Inside the Hive - Air Date 11-2-23
Host Brian Stelter joins Naomi Klein to discuss the challenges of understanding what’s happening on the ground in Israel and Gaza as an information war plays out alongside the carnage.
The October 7th attack by Hamas and Israel's subsequent response has left the world in shock. To better understand the context behind this moment, Adam is joined by Nathan Thrall, one of the leading experts on the conflict in Gaza.
Ta-Nehisi Coates joins us to discuss his journey to Palestine and Israel and learn about the connection between the struggle of African Americans and Palestinians.
MEMBERS-ONLY BONUS CLIP(S)
Ch. 9: Beyond Settler-Colonialism - Against the Grain - Air Date - 10-31-23
Mahmood Mamdani, the acclaimed scholar of colonialism and anti-colonialism, reflects on the United States, Nazi Germany, South Africa, and Israel — settler-colonial societies built on internment and ethnic cleansing.
FINAL COMMENTS
Ch. 10: Final comments on an extraordinary case of looking the find the humanity in the inhumane attacks on Israel of October 7th
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Description: A black and white photo of a street protest in London. An older man holds a large handmade protest sign, which reads "Hamas targetting civilians = war crimes. Israel targetting civilians = war crimes." The greeting "Shalom" is written in Hebrew next to the greeting "Salam" written in Arabic. At the bottom, "End the occupation!"
Credit: "No Excuses for War Crimes under any Pretext." by Alisdare Hickson, Flickr | License: CC BY-SA 2.0 | Changes: Cropped and slightly increased contrast
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this episode of the award-winning Best of the Left Podcast in which we shall take a look at how |
| 0:07.8 | violence and oppression are corrosive to both the victim and perpetrator and why this goes a long way toward explaining many |
| 0:16.3 | of the dynamics at play in the Holy Land between Israelis and Palestinians. |
| 0:21.0 | Sources today include AJ Plus, the Medi Hassan Show, |
| 0:26.0 | the Bituation Room, Owen Jones, |
| 0:28.7 | This is Hell, Inside The Hive, |
| 0:31.5 | factually with Adam Conover, and Democracy Now, with an additional |
| 0:36.0 | members only clip from Against the Grain. Just after dawn on October 7th, 2023, Palestinian fighters belonging to the group Hamas broke out of the besieged Gaza Strip. |
| 0:52.0 | After blowing through Israel's high-tech fence, mask broke out of the besieged Gaza Strip. |
| 0:52.6 | After blowing through Israel's high-tech fence, |
| 0:55.1 | they attacked several of the surrounding military bases |
| 0:58.0 | and over-ran them, before moving on to Israeli communities |
| 1:01.4 | near the border. |
| 1:02.2 | At least 1,300 Israelis were killed |
| 1:04.4 | and dozens were captured and taken into Gaza |
| 1:07.3 | to be used in a future prisoner spot. |
| 1:09.4 | Many of the dead were deemed civilians |
| 1:11.4 | under international law and children were also among those killed. |
| 1:14.6 | Many governments have rallied behind Israel, which has already bombarded Gaza with airstrikes, |
| 1:19.3 | flattening neighborhoods and killing at least 1,900 Palestinians at the time of this recording. |
| 1:24.4 | Israel has also cut off water, electricity, fuel, and food to the people there |
| 1:29.2 | and declared a total siege. So why did Hamas attack Israel? A lot of the condemnation of the |
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