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159. “It’s Fun to Smoke Marijuana”

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🗓️ 13 March 2014

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

A psychology professor argues that the brain's greatest attribute is knowing what other people are thinking. And that a Queen song, played backwards, can improve your mind-reading skills.

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0:00.0

I'd like you to meet Nicholas Eppley, professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago.

0:10.0

That's not as arcane as it sounds.

0:12.0

I'm in the Booth School of Business.

0:16.0

Now, one of the things that we all love about academia is how incredibly down to Earth it is,

0:22.0

and how rooted it is in empirically.

0:25.0

So what exactly is Eppley's specialty?

0:30.0

I study mind reading.

0:41.0

From WNYC, this is Freakinomics Radio, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything.

0:48.0

Here's your host, Stephen Dupner.

1:03.0

So why is a business school professor studying mind reading?

1:07.0

As Nicholas Eppley explains, it's because being in business means constantly dealing with other people,

1:13.0

and it's really helpful to understand what you can know and what you can't know about how other people think,

1:20.0

whether they're a rival, partner, whatever.

1:23.0

Eppley has written a book called Mindwise.

1:26.0

How we understand what others think, believe, feel, and want.

1:32.0

Okay, so I'm an experimental psychologist, and what that means is that we put people in experiments

1:38.0

to watch how they behave under certain conditions.

1:41.0

So what we do in our research is we put people in experiments that put their mind reading capacities to the test.

1:48.0

So for instance, we might bring in married couples and ask them to predict what their spouses' attitudes are,

1:55.0

along a series of 20 different questions, say, we ask one person to predict how the other person will respond to these,

2:01.0

and then we look at how the other person actually responds, and we compare the two.

2:05.0

We look to see if they're correlated with each other, and if so, how much so.

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