#1589 War in the Holy Land: Context Behind the Atrocities, Crimes Against Humanity, and the Possible Escalation That Will be Detrimental to All Sides in the Wake of the Hamas Attack Israel is Calling Their "9-11"
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Jay Tomlinson
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🗓️ 17 October 2023
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Air Date 10/17/2023
There is absolutely no understanding of the conflict in Israel and Gaza without deep context, history, and human psychology. Those who attempt to find moral clarity through simplification of the situation will only find themselves supporting atrocities by one side or the other and demonstrate themselves to be fools in the process.
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SHOW NOTES
Ch. 1: Israel and Palestine A Difficult Discussion Part 1 - Gaslit Nation - Air Date 10-10-23
Andrea is joined by Terrell Starr, host of the Black Diplomats podcast, who recently visited the West Bank.
Israel has declared war on Hamas after Hamas fighters launched a surprise coordinated attack over the militarized border, the largest in decades.
Ch. 3: Phyllis Bennis on Gaza - CounterSpin - Air Date 10-13-23
“War is not the time for context” still seems to be the mantra for many in the US press. We’ll talk with Phyllis Bennis from the New Internationalism project at the Institute for Policy Studies.
From Tel Aviv, we hear from award-winning Israeli journalist and author Gideon Levy, whose recent column for Haaretz is headlined “Israel Can’t Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price.”
Ebro in the Morning sits down with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to discuss the conflicts in the Israel-Hamas war, the role of the United States in the conflict, the conversation, and the next steps.
Ch. 6: Israel and Palestine A Difficult Discussion Part 2 - Gaslit Nation - Air Date 10-10-23
We speak with journalist and Palestine News Director for Mondoweiss Yumna Patel from Bethlehem about the events of the past week
As the humanitarian crisis worsens, we get an update from Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, who says conditions in Gaza are dire.
The unfolding crisis in Gaza, where relentless Israeli bombardment has killed more than 1,500 people since Saturday, is “a humanitarian catastrophe,” says Palestinian American human rights attorney Noura Erakat.
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Palestinian National Initiative leader Mustafa Barghouti discusses the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Russian invasion of Ukraine with CNN's Fareed Zakaria.
VOICEMAILS
Ch. 11: Calling Congress about the latest war - Andrew
FINAL COMMENTS
Ch. 12: Final comments with even more notes of nuance from the conflict
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Description: Photo. In the foreground, piles of broken concrete and twisted metal line a section of the coast of Gaza. The sea and tall buildings are visible in the distance. The sky is cloudy and ominous.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this episode of the award-winning Best of Lust podcast in which we shall take |
| 0:07.7 | a look at the conflict in the Holy Land between Israel and Hamas, to understand the deep |
| 0:13.6 | context history and human psychology at play. |
| 0:17.6 | Those who attempt to find moral clarity through simplification of the situation as many on |
| 0:22.4 | both the right and left currently are will only find themselves eventually supporting atrocities |
| 0:28.9 | by one side or the other, and demonstrate themselves to be fools in the process. |
| 0:33.6 | We are trying to avoid that pitfall. |
| 0:36.3 | Sources today include Gaslit Nation, Democracy Now, Counter-Spin, Ebro in the Morning, and |
| 0:42.8 | the Mark Steiner show with an additional member's only clip from the majority report. |
| 0:53.3 | So I want to just sort of preface this just a summary of today's discussion, and |
| 0:58.4 | Trill and I are going to go into all the nuance of it. |
| 1:01.1 | The reality is, whatever you think of Israel, whatever you think of Israel, I want to remind |
| 1:06.7 | people on all sides of this issue. |
| 1:08.8 | I know we have people who are waiting for Terrell to go into the Palestinian point of |
| 1:13.8 | view, because he's been in the West Bank, he has a lot of Palestinian friends. |
| 1:17.8 | I want to just say to everyone, you cannot understand Israel without understanding generations |
| 1:25.6 | going back centuries of just normalized anti-Semitism. |
| 1:30.8 | If you look at the Dreyfus affair, that was a lynching of a Jewish French officer in |
| 1:36.6 | France. |
| 1:37.6 | If you look at financial instability in the 1800s, 1900s, who were blamed for that, the Jews, |
| 1:44.0 | right? |
| 1:45.0 | Before there was Twitter, Elon Musk's Twitter, there was the elders of Zion, the disinformation |
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