Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories podcast.

I'm your host, John Delin.

We are so super excited today to be continuing our groundbreaking epic series with Mike from

LDS discussions about Mormon church truth claims.

Hey, Mike, we're so glad to have you back.

Everybody, it's going to be back.

I super loved our discussion last time about the Golden plates.

I think it was brilliant.

You know, I think it's fun just because, like I said, it's like for those who are

listening now who haven't watched the first two or listened to me probably should go back and do it

because these are going to try to build a bunch of other and in a way I think it'll make more sense.

And that's why for me, I thought the Golden plates one was a lot of fun because you hear the correlated story

and then when you go through and dig into it, it's actually more, it's actually cooler to learn the real history

because you can understand that whole worldview better and you can understand how Joseph Smith would have came up with it and done it.

But at the same time, it's not as cool in the sense of it's not what you were taught.

But I think it's just, I mean, to put it a different way, like people will go, why do you talk about this stuff if you don't believe?

And it's like, well, you know, I came from that paradigm, right?

I was a convert and I'm still technically a member.

But at the same time, I find it like truly fascinating when you're trying to, when you find like a new tidbit that fits into something really well.

And so like I said, I thought the last episode was fun just because it continues off treasured digging.

And now it like springboards right into the next one, which is kind of the way that, like I said earlier,

it's like these pieces fit together really well.

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