158 - The Little-Known Shocking History of Gender Identity Ideology with Malcolm Clark
Gender: A Wider Lens
Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
4.6 • 961 Ratings
🗓️ 5 April 2024
⏱️ 63 minutes
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In this episode, Sasha and Stella welcome Malcolm Clark for a really interesting conversation exploring various facets of historical ideas and identities around gender, homosexuality, and the evolution of identity activism. This discussion navigates the intricate and contentious terrain of understanding gender non-conformity and identity expression across history.
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| 0:00.0 | Howdy? |
| 0:02.0 | Hey, Sasha, how's it going? |
| 0:03.0 | Good. I always say hello like a kind of country western caricature. |
| 0:08.0 | Howder, Stella? |
| 0:09.0 | That's because you're the Americana. |
| 0:10.0 | Have you noticed I'm going dark and trying to be sexy like Sasha now? |
| 0:14.4 | Yeah, your hair looks really good actually. |
| 0:17.6 | Yeah, not quite pulling it off, but yeah. No, I decided I'm naturally dark brown and I decided I was going back to see. |
| 0:26.0 | We've talked a lot about your evolution of hair colors, your gender journey of hair, I guess. |
| 0:31.0 | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 0:32.0 | I would be. I've been dying to get Malcolm on. I love Malcolm's work work he's just got this amazing forensic very very |
| 0:45.7 | good attention to detail and the historical origin of gender identity gender medicine |
| 0:51.8 | and he he tracks it and I just think his |
| 0:55.4 | sub-stack is a joy I really think it's really really really interesting. |
| 0:58.8 | So his ex profile too I mean Malcolm has a history as a producer of science programming which kind of explains how he does does these deep dives, puts together this interesting history and kind of synthesizes it in also a way that almost |
| 1:16.8 | like you feel like you're looking at a storyboard. |
| 1:19.1 | Like you can really see the producer in him when you look at his work and he's brilliant and he's just super |
| 1:24.4 | likable I'd love to grab a beer with him and just like talk about things and |
| 1:28.4 | you've gotten to do that and I'm a really jealous I came to Glasgow and he said he'd meet me and he was so good and we went around |
| 1:35.4 | Glasgow and went to different sites and as he said we ended up in a whiskey bar but |
| 1:39.8 | it was just a really nice night he's's a really, really entertaining, interesting personality, |
| 1:46.0 | a person I should say. So I think it's really important that we have these different |
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