158: The "In Cold Blood" Clutter Murders w/ Gary McAvoy - A True Crime History Podcast

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Most of us probably know at least the basics of the 1959 Kansas Clutter family murders case, in large part because the story was dramatically detailed by Truman Capote in his best-selling 1966 non-fiction novel entitled "In Cold Blood".

But was Capote's book as factual as he claimed it was? The Kansas Bureau of Investigation says so, but my guest, Gary McAvoy does not. Gary, along with Ronald R. Nye, collaborated to write the book "And Every Word Is True", based on the personal notes and files of Ronald's father Harold Nye, lead investigator of the case. Gary joins me to share some tantalizing theories from their book, based on forgotten facts, clues and witness statements from the original investigation over sixty years ago.

The author's website: https://www.garymcavoy.com/

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0:31.6	This week on the most notorious podcast, the 1959 Kansas Clutter Murders made famous by Truman
0:38.9	Capote and his classic and groundbreaking nonfiction novel, In Cold Blood.
0:46.5	We don't know who that third person was, but in Hickhawks letters, he mentions that they
0:53.4	were going to meet up after the murders with someone named Roberts.
0:58.2	Hickhawks writes that as they were murdering the Clutters, they had an hour to meet this
1:02.9	Roberts.
1:03.9	They didn't want to miss that because $5,000 is a lot of money.
1:09.2	That's what the point of the meeting was, was to collect $500,000.
1:14.7	The other half of a prepayment of $5,000 for the job.
1:19.4	That's what led me to believe this wasn't a simple robbery, but actually a murder for
1:23.3	a hire.
1:50.5	Welcome all to another episode of the most notorious podcast, I'm Eric Rivenes.
1:55.6	I can't believe I haven't done an episode about today's subject before.
2:01.5	I guess as usual, it's all about waiting for the right guest at the right time, and I
2:06.2	have him.
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