158. CULTS Part 2: How Intuition Can Save Us with Sarah Edmondson

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 8 December 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Glennon, Abby, Amanda, and Sarah Edmondson continue their conversation: 1. “Love bombing” and other red flag strategies used by cults to reel people in. 2. The jarring similarities between cults and abusive relationships – and how in both your best qualities are used against you. 3. What to do if someone you love is pulled into QAnon, 4chan, or another conspiratorial culture. 4. The moment Sarah realized she had been initiated into a sex pyramid, and how she escaped. 5. The responsibility she felt – after having been such an avid recruiter – to expose the truth of NXIVM and help take down its leaders. CW: Discussion of cult culture and sexual coercion About Sarah: Sarah Edmondson is an actor, podcaster, author, and cult-recovery advocate. Sarah has starred in a number of TV series, yet she is most recently known for her real-life saga escaping the multi-level marketing company NXIVM – and DOS, a “secret sisterhood” within NXIVM – which can also be seen on HBO’s The Vow. Sarah’s memoir Scarred shares her true story from the moment she joined NXIVM, to her harrowing fight to get out and bring its founder to justice. Sarah co-hosts the podcast A Little Bit Culty with her husband Anthony ‘Nippy’ Ames, and lives in Atlanta with her husband and two sons. TW: @sarahjedmondson IG: @sarahedmondson Sarah’s resource page: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resources Steven Hassan’s BITE model: https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

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0:00.0	Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.
0:13.2	We are back with the really fascinating and amazing and just lovable as Sarah Edmonds
0:19.9	has.
0:20.9	Brave, brave, brave, brave.
0:23.4	And Sarah is here to talk to us about her experience with Nexium, please, please go
0:29.2	back to the last episode and listen to it.
0:31.8	And then we'll catch you back here.
0:33.9	Content warning that we will be discussing cult culture and sexual coercion.
0:39.4	Sarah, we're going to start with what we ended with at the last episode was the moments
0:46.7	after your initiation into Nexium where you're starting to figure out that this is all nefarious
0:53.7	but how the hell are you going to get yourself out?
0:57.5	So start us there and tell us you had some friends who were starting to come to you and
1:02.6	say this isn't right.
1:05.5	But you were trying to hold on to your beliefs, your community, your collateral, your whole
1:12.8	world.
1:13.8	It was like a whole world.
1:14.8	Right.
1:15.8	Take us back to that time and let us know.
1:16.8	And I also want to know the moment when you figured out what that brand really was.
1:23.1	So those happened in two separate moments.
1:25.7	I believe the first moment where things fell into place is when Mark and I had that honest
1:31.8	conversation under his NDA.
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