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Listening to America

#1570 Clay’s 10 Propositions About Thomas Jefferson

Listening to America

Listening to America

History, Politics, Unitedstates, Society & Culture, American

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week on Listening to America, after a lifetime of thinking about the third president of the United States, Clay Jenkinson has made a list of 10 insights about the great man. Clay puts these propositions to our favorite guest historian Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to this podcast introduction to this week's listening to America. I'm Clay Jenkins, and I'm actually in my living room

0:08.1

Let me describe it for you. I've not in my studio today for some reason

0:12.8

There is a gas fireplace on top of it. There are two vases with shocks of wheat

0:18.1

Which is what North Dakota does in this world. There is a beautiful

0:22.8

Little statuette of the Eiffel Tower

0:26.2

There are some building blocks. I made for my daughter when she was born with the Greek alphabet

0:32.0

Have no idea how much trouble that was but she did eventually go on to study classical Greek at Columbia University

0:38.1

And and she was my co-host

0:40.6

Just a couple of days ago for ten days in Greece and was marvelous

0:46.0

We had such a great time. There's a skull. I'm sorry to say every Renaissance humanist has a skull on his mantel piece

0:53.6

And the horse of Selenie from the Parthenon marbles purchased at the British Museum and we were just at the Parthenon

1:00.5

And my daughter went back. This is so interesting. We were at the Parthenon and we had a long debate about whether the marbles should be returned

1:09.3

From England Lord Elgin

1:11.5

Looted them. I think it's only fair to say in 187

1:14.5

Wondupselling them to the British Museum. They've been there ever since

1:18.8

Greece wants them back. Of course, they should go back Greece has a spectacular museum waiting for them

1:26.9

There's no argument that England can any longer use to keep them, but of course they do so far

1:32.7

And so we were there. We had this debate

1:35.2

We went to both the Acropolis and then down to the Acropolis Museum, which is world class and then my daughter went back to

1:43.0

Britain, arrived at like four in the morning and the next day she had to get up and take a train to London because an old friend from

1:50.1

Kansas was there and wanted to go to

1:52.9

high tea at

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