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We can't just return everything back.

I'm not saying that either.

But we need to look at our urban planning and put our drainage and our storm protection

and the biodiversity values in there back together to enable people to leave,

enable people to get benefits and not have some of these problems because we've taken the

wetlands out.

How much of our flood zones are flood zones? Because there were supposed to be wetlands

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