The following is a conversation with Natalia Bailey, a rocket scientist and spacecraft propulsion engineer

previous data MIT and now the founder and CTO of Axion Systems, specializing in efficient

space propulsion engines for satellites and spacecraft.

So these are not the engines that get us from the ground on Earth out to space, but rather

the engines that move us around in space once we get out there.

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As a side note, let me say something about Natalia's story.

She has talked about how when she was young, she would often look up at the stars and

dream of alien intelligences that one day we could communicate with.

This moment of childlike cosmic curiosity is at the core of my own interest in space and

extraterrestrial life and in general in artificial intelligence, science and engineering.

Amid the meetings and the papers and the career rat race and all the awards, let's not

let ourselves lose that childlike wonder.

Sadly, we're on earth for only a very short time.

So let's have fun solving some of the biggest puzzles in the universe while we're here.

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