157 - Is Our Culture Incentivizing Men to Transition? with Sascha Bailey
Gender: A Wider Lens
Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
4.6 • 961 Ratings
🗓️ 29 March 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Guest, Sascha Bailey, reflects on his journey as a model, art curator, and pioneer in the NFT (Non-Fungible Tokens) art scene. A captivating account of the intersection where art, tech, and culture collide with personal identity. Sascha differentiates between emotional and functional motives for transitioning, discussing transmaxxing, incentives, and societal trends. Offering listeners a blend of unexpected insights, even challenging hosts, Sasha and Stella, to step outside their familiar gender-centric framework.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi Sasha. How's it going? |
| 0:02.8 | Good. We had our minds blown today. We did. |
| 0:07.8 | We really did. I did. I felt like I was talking to somebody from a different world. |
| 0:13.9 | It was really, really interesting and really good for me |
| 0:17.3 | because I was smashed out of my gender psychology bubble quite definitively. |
| 0:24.4 | We talked to Sasha Bailey today and as you'll hear later when I read his bio he has his |
| 0:30.7 | hands in very different worlds than we do. |
| 0:33.0 | First of all, he's about a decade younger than me, |
| 0:36.7 | maybe younger than that. |
| 0:38.2 | Twenty years than me. |
| 0:39.2 | He's 29. |
| 0:40.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:40.9 | Yep, he's in the tech world. He's in the art world. He's in the tech world. |
| 0:42.8 | He's in the art world. |
| 0:44.2 | He's in the fashion world. |
| 0:46.1 | And of course, we came to know about him |
| 0:48.2 | because he shared, well, the Daily Mail reached out to him. |
| 0:51.6 | He didn't reach out to them, to ask about his move from Tokyo back to the |
| 0:57.1 | U.S. and in the process of sharing, they said, we're going to write an article, do you want to to comment on it and he told them a little bit about his gender dysphoria. |
| 1:05.8 | So this is how we came to learn about him because of course we are up to date on most desisting and detransition stories that happen out there. |
| 1:14.0 | But the conversation went into so many fascinating directions and you and I just recognize |
| 1:19.3 | we're in a bit of a bubble and we really need to learn about all of the fascinating conversations |
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