Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I am one of your

co hosts for today, John Delin. I am joined by one of my two or three main partners in

truth and righteousness, Herado Semano. Hey, Herado. Hey, John. Thanks for joining us.

Yeah. Excited to be here as always. This is an exciting one. Yeah. It's March 4th and

we are here bringing back onto our program, someone who is a legend as far as I'm concerned,

but also someone who has been doing really important work for Mormon Stories podcast. We

reintroduced to you all, Dr. Simon Sotherton, geneticist from Australia. Hey, Simon.

Good. I don't know how are you. Thanks for joining us. Oh, it's pleasure. Yeah. And we are

here in a series that we have just started on Mormon Stories with Dr. Sotherton with

Simon called Science versus Mormon doctrine. What's it called? Mormon doctrine versus science.

Okay. Yeah. And all this is is once a month we bring Simon on. He has a lot of experience

in sciences. It relates to Mormon church truth claims. And once a month we have Simon

addressing an issue where where science bumps up against Mormon doctrine or truth claims.

And while we are talking about that, I just need to show you how we make this possible.

So if you go to Mormon Stories.org slash Simon, it'll take you to this website. And on

this website, we announced this program. And there's a little donate button there. The

reason why I'm mentioning this at the beginning is we feel like it's important to pay Simon

for his work. Simon has been doing basically really important work for us Mormons post-Mormons

for literally decades. He's been doing this longer than me. And that's saying something.

And so we are paying Simon for his efforts. It's probably almost symbolic. But I think

for him, it's maybe a little bit motivating, but most importantly for us, we feel like

it's just sustainable. And so because some of you have stepped up, we've started paying

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